Cinematic Flashback: The French Connection

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Welcome to the cinematic flashback podcast.

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Get ready to hop into the Wayback Machine as we journey through the wild, bold, and unforgettable films of the 1970s.

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Each episode, we'll break down a classic or not so classic movie with a fun, fresh approach.

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We'll explore the who's who of each film, dive into the premise and the plot, see how it performed then and now, and wrap it up with, did it groove through the decades or lose its beat? I am your host Chuck Bryan, and with me today is Matt Sargent.

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Thanks Matt, thank you so much for being here.

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do you still pick your feet in Poughkeepsie? a classic line from a classic movie for sure.

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I am happy to join you on this journey.

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And I thought this would be a great exercise to get together with you and we can talk about some movies that were Seventies were when I was, 10 in 1971.

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So from 10 to 19.

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Wow.

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I graduated from high school in 1980.

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the seventies are my years for a lot of impressionable.

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And I saw quite a bit when I was young.

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I'm excited about this whole journey.

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in 79, I think I was going into sixth grade.

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For me, a lot of the movies that the seventies have always been the big tent pole movies, star Wars, Star Trek, Godfather, Jaws, I'm really looking forward to finding films that I'm not as familiar with, but, Everyone says you should see Matt what are we watching tonight? we are going to be talking about The French connection came out in 1971.

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it is a crime thriller that was really unlike anything that had come before.

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was a very early film by William Friedkin, and it's based on a true story.

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the stars are.

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Actors that went on to have amazing careers Roy Scheider.

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playing Popeye Doyle was Gene Hackman.

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No, his first film, as I understand, but it was a seminal film for him, as I think many people recognize.

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so my introduction to both of those actors, Roy scheider was obviously jaws too because I was way too young to see jaws when it came out And for gene hackman, he was lex luthor in superman the movie So imagine my surprise watching this film and trying to put Gene Hackman's Lex Luthor into, Jimmy Popeye Doyle.

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Yeah, so that's funny.

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Our different perspectives on time.

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Roy Schrader was definitely the first I had interaction with him was Jaws, the actual original Jaws, which I actually saw in a movie theater.

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Wow.

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And yeah, it was amazing.

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And Gene Hackman, I have a hard time remembering.

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I've seen so many movies with him in them and they were at various different times and I don't think there were any kind of chronological order.

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Like I may have seen him in a movie from later before I actually really sat down and watched, the French connection.

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I also think I remember my parents not allowing me to go with the family to go see it.

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Oh, really? Why's that? It rated R or.

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Oh, So it was too violent.

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Oh, they took me to see Chinatown, which, yeah, if you've ever seen Chinatown, there's a lot of violence.

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You're not going to say French Connection, but Chinatown.

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Let's get back to the French connection.

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I wanted to set some context for the movie because context is king.

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It's really hard to remember, what the world was like.

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You might not have even been there when this film came out.

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I looked up some trivia.

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Did you know that the first Starbucks opened at Pike Place Market in Seattle, Washington in 1971? That's amazing.

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I thought it was much younger than that.

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I don't know what their cup of coffee cost at the time.

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we're both application developers.

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We work for a consulting company and we live and die by email today.

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Ray Tomlinson invented internet based email.

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That's pretty funny.

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what do you think the number one show would have been on TV at the time? if I was to think back, it was all in the family, but that makes a lot of sense.

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It was a very popular show.

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I remember it.

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So it was definitely appointment style tv but we did watch all in the family and I watched all in the family and reruns a long time.

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My wife and I, we grew up in a house where our parents both watched it.

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And to this day we can sing the entire opening song.

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those were the days.

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also in that top 10 show was a police program called Adam 12.

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it's still on me TV quite a bit.

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Something I wanted to come back to as we get into the French Connection is how the sanitized version of television police shows, how they differ from what movie audiences were going to see with the French Connection.

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Yeah, that's absolutely true.

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I think it's good for our listeners to try to put themselves back in time a little bit and try to understand what was life like when this movie hit the scene.

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Life was portrayed on the screen as bewitched and, Mayberry RFD but it wasn't realistic.

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This isn't what really happened with It was all pretty much a picturesque, Sanitized view that didn't match with reality, but at the time, was entertainment.

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And that's what people were looking for.

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Sure, I remember my mom was a big fan of a show called Dragnet.

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Which was a little more gritty.

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but it was definitely sanitized so the idea that you went into the movie theater and saw this movie which when we look at it now yeah, that's pretty Probably pretty realistic or, nearly realistic from what our experience is now.

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But back then it was Oh yeah.

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I think people were really shocked and there was a lot of controversy over it as well.

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They thought it was a terrible thing.

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There are other people saying it's a cinematic masterpiece, that it was the first of a genre of, film making and films that would change things and I think the latter proved to be true.

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was a turning point for how police were depicted, how movies were made, how soundtracks interacted with the movies before, we had wonderful soundtracks and it was a significant part of the movie, but it wasn't intended to emote a sense of foreboding or stress on the audience where I think in the French Connection it absolutely is one of the things that really attracted me about movies of the seventies is that there was a much different experience of going to the movies Today, you sit through multiple advertisements while you're waiting for the previews to begin.

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They call it a pregame show And it used to be, you would go and sit down and probably by the 80s, they may have started playing, a trivia slide, but for the most part, it was silent.

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The lights went down the curtains came up it was just a completely different experience oh, I have a funny story about that.

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I'm old enough to remember when you would go to a movie and the preview for an PG rated movie was absolutely R rated, So nowadays previews are all R banded g yeah or the same as the movie you're going to see.

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You had maybe two or three previews, leaders, or what do they call them? Trailers, sorry, not leaders, trailers for upcoming movies.

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But that was basically it.

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Nowadays, there's, at least 40 minutes of It's a good 30 to 40 minutes.

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For now, one of the things, of course I do is I like being able to pick my chair and then I know I can come about 30 minutes after the advertised time and just slide in.

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We live really close to the movie theater.

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Literally we can, I can look and say, oh, the movie started 20 minutes ago.

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It's no problem.

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Buy We can go.

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we can still Definitely a different time.

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We already talked about, Gene Hackman and Roy Scheider.

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both detectives.

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Roy Scheider actually was convinced that he had lost this part because he stormed out of the audition.

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But that was the reason why he was cast.

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That's perfect.

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that's so funny because that makes a lot of sense.

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Fernando Rey played, Alain.

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Charnier.

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Tony, Lo Bianco, played, Sal Bocca, bill Hickman, played the federal agent.

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And the other movie that he was in that I knew of was Bullet from 1968.

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And then, playing the villainous Monsieur Pierre was Marcel, Bozoufi.

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William Freakin was the director, and the other movie that I knew him from was from The Exorcist.

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Screenwriter was Ernest Tiedemann.

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the composer was Don Ellis.

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Owen Rosamond was a cinematographer and Barry Malkin was the editor.

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This film was nominated for multiple awards and it won the academy for both best picture, best director, best actor, and best adapted screenplay.

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The five films nominated tonight take us from a vision of the future to a village in Russia, to one street in Texas, to many streets in New York, and to the court of the czars.

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Who then can say that films do not have a broad spectrum in subject matter, philosophy, point of view? That is the measure of the vitality of the movies, and equally a measure of their potentiality.

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The films nominated are A Clockwork Orange, a Hawks Film Ltd.

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production, Warner Brothers, Stanley Kubrick, producer.

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Fiddler on the Roof, Mirisch Cartier Productions, United Artists, Norman Jewison, producer.

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The French Connection, D'Antoni Productions, 20th Century Fox, Philip D'Antoni, producer.

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Uh, The Last Picture Show, BBS Productions, Columbia, Steven J.

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Friedman, producer.

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Nicholas and Alexandra, A Horizon Picture Productions, Columbia, Sam Spiegel, producer.

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May I have the envelope, please? The winner is the French Connection, Philip D'Antonio, producer.

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Well, it's obviously a great honor, uh, to think that the, uh, French Connection will, uh, rank with all the pictures, uh, that have come to, uh, this particular place in the history of the Oscars.

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On behalf of, uh, Billy Freakin, I want to personally, uh, Thank all the members of our cast and crew, 20th Century Fox, and of course the Academy.

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It's, I still don't believe it.

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Thank you very much.

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So before we actually get into the movie, I did want to take a moment to mention a book by Quentin Tarantino's called Sin of Speculation.

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And he has a chapter called The New Hollywood in the 70s.

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And it's about the post 60s and the establishment auteurs.

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And it's the title.

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is referring to how the 70s marked a significant shift in filmmaking influenced by the French New Wave, altering both the style and the approach of American cinema.

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And it's one of the reasons why I really wanted to do cinematic flashback and have it focus on the 70s.

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William Freakin is listed as one of the anti establishment auteurs in Tarantino's list.

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Matt, why don't you grab that straw hat, throw it in the back window, and let's go on and talk about the French Connection.

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You gonna tell us who your man is? When's the last time you took your feet, Willie? Who's your connection, Willie? What's his name? What? Hey, John! No, no, man, no! Hey, no.

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Is it Joe the barber? Joe the barber, right? That's who it is, isn't it? Now, don't give us any What's Joe's last name? I don't know, man! Hey, all I know is he lives on 125th Street, man.

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Up on the barber shop.

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What side of the street is he living on? North or south? North or south? I don't know what you're talking about, man.

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I don't know.

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I'm asking you what side of the street he lives on! Hey, when's the last time you picked your feet, huh? Yeah, what's he talking about? I've got a man in Poughkeepsie who wants to talk to you.

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You ever been in Poughkeepsie? Huh? Have you ever been in Poughkeepsie? Hey, man, come on, give me a break.

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I don't know what you're talking about, man.

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Come on, come on, say it.

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Let me hear you say it.

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Come on.

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Have you ever been in Poughkeepsie? You've been in Poughkeepsie, haven't you? I want to hear it! Come on! You've been there, right? You sat on the edge of the bed, didn't you? You took off your shoes, put your finger between your toes and picked your feet, didn't you? That's it! All right.

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You wanna shield my partner, you know what that means? All right, I gotta listen to him gripe about his bowling scores.

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One of the things you'll remark when you watch a movie is it really starts out quite slow, very normal.

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You're in the, you're basically in some French city.

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I think you later find out it's Marsai or something.

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I think it's Marsai.

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It's Marse.

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You watch, basically you start to.

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See a policeman doing some police work and following someone and That progresses and you meet some of the main characters.

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So you see this elaine charnier, I wouldn't call him a heavy because he's very suave, but you find out that he came out of the, what do you call it? The loading docks.

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Yeah.

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Like his, you see a scene where his girlfriend is obviously buying him clothes and he thanks her for buying more clothes and making him look sophisticated.

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Not like right off the doc.

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is what he says.

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And that's important.

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Cause you realize this guy is, he looks a dandy, but he definitely is not a dandy and then you also meet his sort of sidekick heavy Maybe you'd call him the muscle and the interaction with the french detective which ends, you know badly for the french detective of course, it's classic french, movie making because a baguette makes an appearance the heavy, his name was Rousseau Right minutes of the movie, right? He's already killing this detective kills somebody with basically no hesitation at all.

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And then, Elaine and him later talk about it.

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And there, to some extent they're like, it had to be done, it's had to be done.

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He was getting too close.

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And what you find is that these are the guys that have some drugs that they want to be able to get into the United States to be able to distribute.

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And this whole plot, by the way, this is a lot of this plot is what you pick up as you go on at the very beginning of the film.

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something is happening they're bringing in, this actor, Henri Devereaux.

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you start to get the feeling that he's going to be, the distraction for bringing whatever the drugs are into the United States.

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at this point, Yeah.

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Is you're not really sure what they're going to use this actor for, but it's funny they show this actor and they show that he's agreed to work with them.

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Although the muscle guy really doesn't like it, but.

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And one of the things that you see is they're cruising around France in a giant American made car It's this brown car.

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it's out of place.

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So it immediately draws your eye.

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if you follow the car, You follow the drugs and then the titles tell us we're in Brooklyn there's parts of New York when it's under the neon lights, it looks so romantic, but if it's not at night and it's not lit and you're seeing it for what it is, it's a dump.

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Yeah, It's so dirty.

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even the grain of the film just brings that out and draws so much attention to New York I have to tell you that a lot of new york was very rough and very Bad, you know My parents wouldn't even take us there.

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up there.

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my wife's dad grew up in Jackson Heights, and very similar to the neighborhoods that are depicted in this movie, but on the other side of the city.

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unkempt and dirty and you had the unions doing the trash and they may or may not have picked it up and down buildings that, clearly real estate wasn't the, it is nowadays, where you, an empty lot with a semi broken down building, just.

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exists.

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That in New York now.

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It's pretty gross.

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There's some pretty nasty, interesting places.

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And I think that the filmmaker did a good job of trying to capture that and show it.

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And when we get there, we're in Brooklyn and we're meeting the protagonists essentially besides, the bad guys we're meeting the good guys.

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In this case, the good guys, and I'm going to put this in air quotes because I don't think the main character is necessarily a good guy.

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So I'll argue that with you, but go ahead.

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he's the character that we're with.

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And so outside of this bar, you see a Santa Claus.

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Who is Jimmy Popeye Doyle selling, hot dogs is Russo.

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A classic, true person right? So the guy dressed up dressed up as santa claus is real close to where this bar is and he can see into the bar rory scheider's character is out serving a hot.

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He's actually selling a hot dog to some guy and As soon as Popeye Doyle character sees this guy that they're trying to get and he rings the bell and immediately they both to go in and Roy Scheider character goes right into the bar takes off his apron and basically tries to get this guy.

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Unfortunately they're in a crowded bar and the guy makes it out and there's a foot race before the foot race starts He he pulls a knife and he cuts the Roy Scheider character on the arm.

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And I think part of this whole very, at the end of this, they're very excited, they're very angry.

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Because they, he got knifed, and they know, the guy knows them, that's the other thing, he knows them, it's clear during this interrogation that, he has had run ins possibly with them before, and then the classic, during this interrogation, it's pretty rough, they catch him, and then they drag him to an empty lot, And they are holding up against the wall and really roughing them up or trying to get some information out of them And that's when we have this classic interaction between the roy scheider character asking normal questions popeye doyle these crazy questions about picking your feet in poughkeepsie Which is just meant to throw people off and it's, It's a little bit weird because you're like, what is he doing? And us as watching the scenes, we're not the person being roughed up.

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We didn't just have a foot raised.

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would be very disconcerting to have this guy asking you about going to Poughkeepsie and maybe you had been there and Maybe you had been there.

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Maybe something bad happened when you were there You immediately start to think about all the bad things and then this other person asks you a question You're like, well, that's I mean nothing happened there I know what's happening I can answer that question.

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get the information they seek which is Nobody has any drugs but it is starting to establish this fact that the stuff that people are holding is really very small potatoes, if you will.

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and that's been going on for some time So one of the things that this scene establishes is not only does it establish the way in which William Friedkin is going to film this movie.

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it is very much it has that handheld almost documentary style.

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There's a lot of long takes and then they bring it in close.

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And it has that feel throughout the entire movie it gives the film for similitude The visual style is one of the most distinguishing features.

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Free can use the handheld camera to create a raw, almost documentary like feel immersed the, the audiences.

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In the underbelly of 1970s, New York, it's absolutely what you get from that.

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And then it's shot as we were talking about before in location in the city's rough air, some rough areas, right? It's, that's where they shot it.

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Contrasted sort of the.

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Polished crime thrillers of previous decades, you know, fancy hotels and everything like that.

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Clearly we know from looking back because we have the leisure of looking back from this time that it impacted of different movies to get the same sort of, documentary style kind of authenticity.

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I think of like right off the bat, I think of taxi driver you talking to me? You talkin to me? You talkin to me? Who the else are you talkin to? You talkin to me? Well, I'm the only one here.

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Who the do you think you're talking to? Oh, yeah? Huh? Okay.

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Huh? it's, again, it's another New York film.

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It's very gritty.

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Serpico and not so much like the gritty parts, but Dirty Harry had some real, it came out in the same year, but it's certainly, I had that same kind of hardboiled rougher side of police It's the West coast version.

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I know what you're thinking, punk.

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You're thinking, did he fire six shots or only five? And to tell you the truth, I forgot myself in all this excitement.

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But being this is a 44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, that will blow your head clean off.

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You could ask yourself a question.

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If you're lucky.

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Well, do ya, punk? those guys pack it up.

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This is what I thought was really interesting.

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They pack it up.

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They're at the, And Popeye Doyle getting ready to leave, and he's at the door, he's about to go out the door, and he stops.

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And he's waiting for his partner to come out.

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His partner's gonna go home, so I'm going home.

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he's I'll buy you a drink.

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yeah, I'm going to bed.

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I'm tired.

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they go to a bar that's where The payoff starts because you see the characters that make up the people that are trying to do the drug deal, we're introduced to one of the Best songs I've heard this month, Popeye goes into this bar he notices two known junk connections And there's this one stranger that he doesn't know who's throwing a lot of cash around.

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Sal Boca and his wife they are the ones working with.

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Elaine to get the drugs to distribute They're the middlemen in the deal.

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right? the, the people in New York that are going to hook up Elaine and his supply with.

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underworld distributors.

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They're the people in New York that are going to hook up Elaine and his supply with.

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underworld distributors.

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And they are new at this, very new this is their big break Sal Boca To his credit he did rob Tiffany's in broad daylight, I thought maybe he was connected or something.

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But we get into the first of several, sequences where Popeye and Russo are tailing the suspects.

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They didn't even know who he is they follow him and ultimately follow him back to their sandwich shop.

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right.

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Which is hilarious because she goes in with a giant hairdo, With a Yeah.

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the top, and the next time you see her, she's holding it in her hand, and she's a dark haired American woman, And yes, And There's a similar thing I want to point out with that is that they switched their cars about as much as they're switching her hair.

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So it's, it was one of those funny kind of coincidences like, they're switching to a different car, and then now she doesn't have her hair anymore.

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So they clearly are trying to throw anybody off, but they're terrible at it.

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Oh yeah, they're a hundred percent trying to cover their tracks because they know that they're starting on this, the beginning of the story of making this drug deal.

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So during this time, they also learn of one other character Joel Weinstock.

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Now, Joel is, the lawyer slash money guy who is going to finance Sal to be able to get the drugs and once they find out, once they make the connection with Sal, Jimmy goes to the captain and they get the court order so that they can wiretap the phones and they can start listening to them on their wiretaps.

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and that's where we're introduced to the two federal agents, Muldrigg and Klein.

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Muldrigg, there's some beef between him and Popeye due to a earlier case that they had where another cop had gotten killed.

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Muldrigg keeps digging on Popeye about getting this other person killed.

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On Stakeout, they're listening in on Sal's phone conversations with the wiretap.

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When suddenly there's a French accent on the end of one of the phones, Elaine is asking right.

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to meet him at the hotel.

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they're all tailing Boca.

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the way they filmed it clearly had a strong influence from real police right.

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how the real police work and how they hand off and they have a phone and They're, they have a radio phone.

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They're talking to him like, okay, yeah, he just went by.

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I'm going to get, I'm on him.

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We can't, we had to turn off the sauce or they made us.

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There was a lot of that very realistic, following and how incredibly important they were.

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Cause they were trying to find out where things were and what was going on.

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And it's literally the only tool they had.

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Clearly, this is not the age of cell phones and Right.

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where everybody does everything, but.

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By sending a message had to go to where they were going to go And so tailing was the way you figured out what crime they were going to do and how they're going to do it And consequently, there's, there's A lot of times when there's little to no conversation or dialogue in the film whatsoever.

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that it's marked in This movie to me is how little conversation how little dialogue there is and there's whole minutes that go by where they're just Doing these tailings and trying to figure stuff out and as a Person watching the movie.

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given a lot of exposition to figure out what's happening It's really on you to figure out why are they following? Oh, okay.

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This is why Yeah.

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you're really in the dark for a good part of it in my opinion There are two scenes in the, in this film that I think are just masterful 1 8 0.

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Junk of the month club sirloin steak.

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Grade A poison.

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89 percent pure junk.

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Best I've ever seen.

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If the rest is like this, you'll be dealing on this load for two years.

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This stuff will take a 7 to 1 hit on the street.

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And by the time it gets down to nickel bags, it'll be at least 32 million.

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Thank you, Howard.

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Take what's left there with you, and good night.

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Not that one.

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The little one.

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The heroin is 89 percent pure grade and Boca is looking at getting a profit of 32 million dollars once it comes off the street However he wants to wait till the end of the week to make this deal.

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because of all the heat And they need to be able to talk So they're going to go, meet in Washington, D.

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C So they can't be wiretapped.

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and can't be followed.

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Elaine comes out of his hotel, the two federal agents never see, Frog One, leave the hotel.

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This is where Popeye is coming up.

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Hello.

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This is Doyle.

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I'm sitting on Frog One.

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Yeah, I know that.

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You got the Westbury covered like a tent.

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I got him on the shuttle at Grand Central.

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Now what going on up there? I may come out of the hotel, he was free as a bird, he wasn't a soul awake.

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And also, Popeye trying to get to the phone to call the federal agents, Yes.

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gets into a phone box to tell him, I'm trailing him.

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And they're like, no, he's still in a hotel.

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No, he's right here on the platform.

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And you've seen this done so many times since then, where one person gets on the train, the other person steps off of it, and then he goes back on, right? It's the other part.

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And they're trying to time the doors closing, I right? was so funny.

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Cause that scene progresses from pretending to be totally innocuous.

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Yes.

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off the train to throw some trash away then Popeye has to jump off the train and then it starts to get obvious that.

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This is not innocuous.

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It is he is definitely following me.

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Unfortunately for Popeye, he loses it.

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He loses this round and Elaine is on the train and is pulling away.

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And as it, as Elaine goes by Popeye, he just waves at him.

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A really Just his fingers are moving.

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Like he's saying bye bye.

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so off he goes, that was one of my favorite scenes, The funny thing is you there's a just fixation between Elaine's suave and debonair, very put together his trim beard.

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He's very neat.

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And the last thing he does is he sticks his umbrella through and opens the door and gets out.

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And then Popeye's yeah, that's it.

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it was just it was very well done.

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But anyway, I do want to talk, you said before you were like he's Popeye is like a bad guy to some extent.

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I'll argue that a little bit.

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by bad guy.

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guy.

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What I was meaning more by that is, is he's much more of an anti hero.

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Yeah, he's for sure an anti.

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To some extent, he's an anti hero.

326
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He's clearly a guy who's probably had, if he was ever married, in disaster, right? Because he is a one track, one trick pony, one track mind.

327
00:29:56,859.7544886 --> 00:30:00,499.7569886
He is nothing but working, and that's what drives him.

328
00:30:00,499.7569886 --> 00:30:04,169.7574886
And yeah, They may be trod on the sky.

329
00:30:04,189.7574886 --> 00:30:05,549.7574886
This witnesses rights.

330
00:30:05,569.7574886 --> 00:30:14,79.7574886
But honestly, at the one point they go into a bar and they rough up a bunch of people and they've all got drugs and they dump the drugs into a drink and ruin them.

331
00:30:14,429.7564886 --> 00:30:16,559.7564886
Hey, how come there's nothing out there, man? That stuff's all milk.

332
00:30:17,9.7564886 --> 00:30:17,939.7564886
Ain't nothing around.

333
00:30:18,539.7554886 --> 00:30:19,629.7564886
Nobody's holding it.

334
00:30:19,649.7564886 --> 00:30:20,589.7564886
I got a name for you.

335
00:30:20,599.7564886 --> 00:30:21,169.7564886
Cy Boca.

336
00:30:21,169.7564886 --> 00:30:21,569.7564886
Brooklyn.

337
00:30:21,929.7564886 --> 00:30:22,779.7564886
Boca? Yeah.

338
00:30:23,179.7564886 --> 00:30:24,279.7564886
B O C A.

339
00:30:26,839.7554886 --> 00:30:28,382.2564886
What about his wife, Angie? Angie.

340
00:30:28,382.2564886 --> 00:30:28,724.6564886
Angie.

341
00:30:29,164.7564886 --> 00:30:29,704.7564886
Doesn't register.

342
00:30:29,704.8564886 --> 00:30:32,474.7564886
There's been some talk.

343
00:30:32,994.7564886 --> 00:30:34,504.7564886
About what? Shipment.

344
00:30:35,414.7564886 --> 00:30:36,304.7564886
Coming in this week.

345
00:30:36,654.7564886 --> 00:30:37,284.7564886
Week after.

346
00:30:37,814.7564886 --> 00:30:38,964.7554886
Everybody's gonna get well.

347
00:30:38,974.7564886 --> 00:30:44,814.0514886
Well, who's bringing it? Where do you want it? Oh, This side.

348
00:30:44,814.0514886 --> 00:30:58,194.0314886
Ow! Bitch! I'm gonna check on this address in the Bronx, And if they don't know you, they're at your I thought I told you to stand there! Get that hair done before Saturday.

349
00:30:59,34.0314886 --> 00:30:59,754.0304886
We're going now.

350
00:30:59,764.0314886 --> 00:31:00,244.0314886
Goodbye.

351
00:31:01,80.6981552 --> 00:31:02,510.0726552
Tell everybody we'll be back in an hour.

352
00:31:02,510.0726552 --> 00:31:05,120.0726552
And it's all just so that they can talk to their informer.

353
00:31:05,170.1726552 --> 00:31:08,930.1726552
And then they punched the informer basically to keep him safe.

354
00:31:09,190.1726552 --> 00:31:17,500.1716552
if they hadn't punched the informer, everybody in that bar would have known they went into the room to talk to him, not to rough him up, to some extent, yeah, I agree with that.

355
00:31:17,510.1716552 --> 00:31:24,390.1716552
He definitely has maybe not classic methods, but of course, if he had classic methods, the story never would have happened.

356
00:31:24,410.1716552 --> 00:31:34,341.7531595
After they get back from DC, there's a scene where they're finding out that the captain is taking them off the case Popeye is heading back to his apartment, and all of a sudden shots ring out.

357
00:31:34,389.3247295 --> 00:31:39,871.2938731
He's being fired upon, Rousseau, the muscle of the French muscle.

358
00:31:39,935.4060078 --> 00:31:49,30.5075078
by the time that Popeye gets up to the roof he looks down sees Rousseau running off and this starts off the signature scene of this whole film.

359
00:31:49,130.5075078 --> 00:31:57,890.5065078
without a doubt that the car chase scene is and crazy and the idea that it was filmed semi legally.

360
00:31:58,55.5065078 --> 00:32:02,499.7205789
What, What do you mean by semi legally? They didn't get any official permits Whoa.

361
00:32:02,604.820579 --> 00:32:13,291.8642797
And what they did was they used a bunch of, Policeman they hired to drive in a bunch of cars to block traffic to keep part of the movie people from getting in the way.

362
00:32:13,561.8642797 --> 00:32:24,780.3255243
But there are scenes where they dodged real citizens driving their cars on that road and just filmed it there's some scenes where it's it's so obvious.

363
00:32:24,970.3255243 --> 00:32:32,950.3245243
There are other scenes where it's like, when the lady has the baby and the slams on the brake okay, that, that was, and that's a setup scene sure.

364
00:32:33,180.3255243 --> 00:32:43,908.6593576
but they weave it in so well that you're sort of believable and the poor guy who gets his car taken, the last thing you hear from him is how will I get my car back Oh yeah, is you're, yeah.

365
00:32:45,408.6593576 --> 00:32:51,288.6593576
There's no cut in between the time Hackman gets in the car and he does that peel out around.

366
00:32:51,448.6593576 --> 00:33:01,788.6593576
And does it a hundred percent successfully because you know It would have been pretty funny if he's give me your car and he immediately wrecks it Bill Hickman drove the car in the chase was the actor, who was playing Muldrig.

367
00:33:01,853.7593576 --> 00:33:05,613.7593576
Bill used to like to have a drink while he was working sometimes.

368
00:33:05,913.7603576 --> 00:33:07,513.7583576
He's this great stunt driver.

369
00:33:07,793.7593576 --> 00:33:17,903.7593576
And we actually had finished making all the shots for the chase and he said, what'd you think of the Chase boss? How do you think we're doing? I said, bill, it, it's nothing.

370
00:33:17,903.7593576 --> 00:33:19,313.7593576
You haven't shown me a thing.

371
00:33:19,603.7593576 --> 00:33:23,593.7593576
I heard what a great stunt driver you were, and this thing is lame.

372
00:33:23,913.7593576 --> 00:33:26,153.7593576
I said, it's, it's nowhere.

373
00:33:26,153.7593576 --> 00:33:26,813.7593576
It's nothing.

374
00:33:26,813.7593576 --> 00:33:30,423.7593576
And Bill was, you know, got a little red in the face.

375
00:33:30,652.0926909 --> 00:33:32,962.0926909
Might have been the Jack Daniels too, George, I don't know.

376
00:33:33,332.0926909 --> 00:33:39,702.0926909
But, uh, and he said, All right, you want to get in that car and I'll show you something? And I said, sure.

377
00:33:39,712.0926909 --> 00:33:42,542.0916909
So, we mounted a camera on the front of the car.

378
00:33:43,432.0926909 --> 00:33:46,462.0926909
I operate the camera that was over his shoulder.

379
00:33:46,462.0926909 --> 00:33:47,882.0926909
He was driving for Hackman.

380
00:33:48,59.902171 --> 00:33:52,369.902171
The car chase scene was considered one of the greatest in film history.

381
00:33:52,419.902171 --> 00:33:54,59.901171
He's not actually chasing another car.

382
00:33:54,59.902171 --> 00:33:56,339.902171
He's chasing a subway train, yes.

383
00:33:56,579.902171 --> 00:33:56,849.902171
part.

384
00:33:56,859.902171 --> 00:33:58,499.902171
It's a, it's an elevated subway.

385
00:33:58,719.901171 --> 00:34:00,929.902171
He's underneath it, trying to make his way down there.

386
00:34:01,309.902171 --> 00:34:05,549.902171
And the crazy thing is, all of this was achieved without any level of CGI.

387
00:34:05,597.410862 --> 00:34:10,677.410862
Today some of those things, they may have put some things in there, digitally, for that.

388
00:34:11,37.410862 --> 00:34:15,392.409862
think To pull away from this is, Nowadays, what you do is you'd get the permits.

389
00:34:15,612.409862 --> 00:34:55,38.6317858
Obviously that's just, that goes without saying you get the permits and you do everything and you'd have hundreds of extras, hundreds of stuntmen driving cars and it would, it, it would balloon the budget by Millions and millions of dollars for just that scene it's a great scene It really pulls together the frenetic level we're at because remember we've been building beginning of this movie when it's calm guy hanging out with his girlfriend in marseille all the way to this guy who's on a train popeye's chasing him in a car below the train and getting into all kinds of wrecks and crazy things.

390
00:34:55,138.6317858 --> 00:35:15,714.1060908
And at that point, everything is just going really fast at that point and there's a high level of tension people are getting shot People are trying to stop the train shout out to the transit authority in new york for And in the film for showing the runaway train breaking that is 100 mechanical If you noticed Yeah.

391
00:35:15,718.1059459 --> 00:35:22,32.1175555
in the show, it goes over the trip and the trip If you hit the train at a certain speed, that Mm hmm.

392
00:35:23,338.7842221 --> 00:35:26,27.2502336
Up and starts a mechanical braking process.

393
00:35:26,27.2502336 --> 00:35:27,77.2502336
You cannot stop.

394
00:35:27,81.4138535 --> 00:35:27,628.9554956
Okay.

395
00:35:27,643.9554956 --> 00:35:29,468.9554956
how that train Actually stopped.

396
00:35:29,563.9554956 --> 00:35:34,903.9554956
Yeah, it's actually a whole mechanical thing because if you hit that thing slow, it lets you go over it evidently.

397
00:35:35,83.9554956 --> 00:35:40,510.1262861
But if you hit it hard and fast trips and that's why the train stopped now, even though it stopped really fast, everybody.

398
00:35:40,864.2850018 --> 00:35:41,655.9606163
got hurt Yeah.

399
00:35:41,695.9606163 --> 00:35:44,845.9606163
look in the train you saw people getting thrown All over the place.

400
00:35:45,385.9606163 --> 00:35:48,683.6241064
like when the bad guy got thrown in his got thrown.

401
00:35:48,713.6241064 --> 00:35:49,583.6241064
It was like, wait a minute.

402
00:35:49,583.6241064 --> 00:35:51,761.0947369
It looks like he's being thrown the wrong way.

403
00:35:51,761.0947369 --> 00:35:59,401.0937369
If you've ever seen the movie poster for the French connection, we come to the scene where Popeye is chasing Rousseau up the stairs.

404
00:35:59,591.0947369 --> 00:36:01,118.7105156
And shoots him in the back.

405
00:36:01,788.7095156 --> 00:36:10,818.7095156
So now we're heading into the final act of the film and the brown Lincoln makes an appearance again after Russo is tailing Sal Bocca.

406
00:36:10,838.7095156 --> 00:36:23,299.5735167
Sal has parked it off in this innocuous place for it to be picked up again Popeye knows that there's something on that car, And eventually, they impound the car, they bring it into the lot, That car's dirty.

407
00:36:23,826.0594095 --> 00:36:25,929.9591363
They take the car apart.

408
00:36:26,779.9591363 --> 00:36:28,299.5509095
they're looking for the drugs.

409
00:36:28,302.5534208 --> 00:36:29,706.3410625
Pulling up the seats.

410
00:36:29,786.3410625 --> 00:36:31,236.3410625
Taking out all the oil.

411
00:36:31,240.5278985 --> 00:36:35,560.2391927
Ripping everything to pieces, they cannot find the drugs.

412
00:36:37,298.6062776 --> 00:36:38,888.6062776
Car since it came from the factory.

413
00:36:39,928.6062776 --> 00:36:40,998.6062776
That thing is clean.

414
00:36:42,278.6062776 --> 00:36:43,198.6052776
I don't buy that, Irv.

415
00:36:43,198.7052776 --> 00:36:45,848.6062776
The stuff is in that car.

416
00:36:46,963.6062776 --> 00:36:48,483.6062776
Will you find it? I can't.

417
00:36:49,989.2149243 --> 00:36:53,757.6015604
was the weight of the car when you got it, 4795 pounds.

418
00:36:53,757.7015604 --> 00:36:58,402.1011737
You The owner's manual says 4, 675.

419
00:36:58,490.288956 --> 00:36:59,883.5104429
120 pounds overweight.

420
00:37:00,34.0632944 --> 00:37:04,34.0632944
They realize that there's one last place that they didn't look.

421
00:37:04,144.0642944 --> 00:37:08,14.0657944
The rocker panel and that's where they find the heroin.

422
00:37:08,64.0657944 --> 00:37:10,484.0657944
It, was hidden inside the frame.

423
00:37:11,114.0657944 --> 00:37:18,244.0657944
Cause back in the day, a car, a big car like that had a big heavy steel frame with a body on top of it.

424
00:37:18,244.0657944 --> 00:37:20,844.0667944
Nowadays, cars are made with what are called unibodies.

425
00:37:21,744.0657944 --> 00:37:28,444.0657944
the body and the frame are one thing and there aren't as much heavy pieces, but this is in the days of, big V8s and giant cars.

426
00:37:28,444.0657944 --> 00:37:30,804.0657944
And that's where they had hidden the drugs in that rock panel.

427
00:37:30,994.0657944 --> 00:37:31,794.0657944
They had to use a.

428
00:37:32,199.0657944 --> 00:38:01,64.3985464
A chisel to get it out and you see later the drug dealers have to use a chisel to get it out As well and you see when they're searching the car they look inside the tires they look all over the place So this is well hidden and they had to work hard to get it and then they return it to them In the same condition that they got it, which I think is a stretch, but the point is they wanted to get the car back to them so that they could catch them in the act of recovering and making the deal.

429
00:38:01,71.6746368 --> 00:38:01,691.6746368
The scene.

430
00:38:01,691.6746368 --> 00:38:11,717.8456287
It was kinda funny, a little bit, because the actor, who was the third Frenchman, Henri Deborah, shows up and he says, I heard my car was here you know? I was to pick it up.

431
00:38:11,757.8456287 --> 00:38:21,369.2119408
I'm the guest of the United States this is where I really liked Roy Scheider's character because he comes out there and he's like, he's like his best friend like, yeah, no, we've got a car.

432
00:38:21,369.2119408 --> 00:38:22,39.2109408
It's right here.

433
00:38:22,39.2119408 --> 00:38:23,409.2119408
We're going to bring it around for you.

434
00:38:23,619.2119408 --> 00:38:25,824.2109408
And they bring this car around take you.

435
00:38:26,519.2119408 --> 00:38:27,929.2119408
and it looks like they never touched it.

436
00:38:28,114.2119408 --> 00:38:30,644.2119408
But it's funny because Ray Charter is exactly doing that.

437
00:38:30,654.2119408 --> 00:38:32,394.2119408
It's oh yeah, we found it.

438
00:38:32,414.2119408 --> 00:38:34,684.2114408
And just totally puts him at ease.

439
00:38:34,684.2114408 --> 00:38:38,284.2129408
And of course, this is where you find out what the role of that actor really was.

440
00:38:38,409.2129408 --> 00:38:44,90.317794
What his role was, he was supposedly scouting locations for a movie.

441
00:38:44,90.317794 --> 00:38:50,434.328244
That's why he needed to move around the city and that's why he brought this car because the car is part of the movie right.

442
00:38:50,659.328244 --> 00:39:02,925.5503474
it has He needed to have the car to see how it would be in scenes and you find that out when The guy at the door is talking He's like, why did you leave this car down in a terrible part of town if Right.

443
00:39:03,95.5503474 --> 00:39:21,825.5169139
up at some other place? It's really nice and they're like, the director, you know He wanted to see and he was out scouting locations and he left it So all of it Obviously it was funny, little bit contrived, but that's really where you find out what the role of the actor, you see the actor, I think before that, when he and Elaine are having a conversation in the hotel Elaine no longer has Russo.

444
00:39:21,825.5169139 --> 00:39:22,625.5169139
Russo is dead.

445
00:39:22,695.5169139 --> 00:39:24,355.5159139
He needs Henry with him.

446
00:39:24,705.5169139 --> 00:39:32,575.514507
And then they take the car out to, a location under Hellgate's bridge, to transfer the heroin to another vehicle.

447
00:39:32,575.514507 --> 00:39:33,776.9228256
Make the money swap here.

448
00:39:33,786.9228256 --> 00:39:39,720.8523841
They're going to take the drugs out and put the money in the Right, right, Alaine is driving away with the money.

449
00:39:39,770.8523841 --> 00:39:44,677.2380666
and he comes up over a bridge and the police have been following them the entire time.

450
00:39:44,688.6299923 --> 00:39:47,141.2383108
Popeye just gives him the exact same wave.

451
00:39:47,141.2383108 --> 00:39:51,232.7524044
That Elaine had given him before because I caught you.

452
00:39:51,232.8524044 --> 00:39:51,923.1338231
We got you.

453
00:39:51,986.8524451 --> 00:39:57,239.5186814
Elaine takes the car back The police close in, there's a firefight that happens.

454
00:39:57,239.5186814 --> 00:39:57,779.5186814
And I think.

455
00:39:57,796.9501216 --> 00:40:05,36.4468803
yeah, Russo ends up, killing Boca with, with a shotgun Elaine is, getting away and Popeye pursuing him.

456
00:40:05,366.4458803 --> 00:40:08,556.4468803
Muldrig also sees Popeye, following him.

457
00:40:08,556.4468803 --> 00:40:10,166.4458803
And so he starts to follow.

458
00:40:10,174.5574884 --> 00:40:34,95.6960874
it's follows him as well into this abandoned warehouse And he definitely sees and he's chasing him and he's, hyper focused on getting this guy Russo comes up behind him Popeye spins around and it looks like he's about to shoot him, but he doesn't because it's his partner the next guy who pops up It looks like the outline of Elaine and shoots him dead In a classic foreshadowing it's Muldrick.

459
00:40:34,95.6960874 --> 00:40:43,125.6960874
it was very ironic that the entire time Mulder kept talking about him killing someone and Popeye shoots him and it's, oh my gosh.

460
00:40:43,475.6960874 --> 00:40:45,230.6960874
Of yeah, a lot of foreshadowing.

461
00:40:45,680.6960874 --> 00:40:54,701.8077325
Popeye says, frog one is in this next room and you see him reload his pistol and he goes over You hear a single shot and we go to black.

462
00:40:55,701.8077325 --> 00:40:59,421.8077325
And then we see what happened afterwards Yeah.

463
00:40:59,431.8077325 --> 00:41:00,341.8077325
In text.

464
00:41:00,391.8077325 --> 00:41:02,956.8077324
A lot of people have a problem with this ending Yeah.

465
00:41:03,11.8077325 --> 00:41:07,454.0299208
it leaves you up in the air to some extent it also Does not pay off.

466
00:41:07,464.0299208 --> 00:41:16,367.5671293
There's no payoff The bad guys Getting their just desserts to some extent except for boca who's just a hustler trying to hustle, not really.

467
00:41:16,367.5681293 --> 00:41:20,127.5671293
I don't think he was a bad super bad, dude didn't see him kill anybody.

468
00:41:20,367.5681293 --> 00:41:22,667.5691293
He gets shotgunned in the chest Yep.

469
00:41:22,727.5681293 --> 00:41:36,365.0994304
Bad guy does get killed by popeye which is good But this guy the mastermind elaine in these and you can wrap it up with what happens to each one of them if you want Joe Weinstock, he was indicted, but he was released because of lack of evidence.

470
00:41:36,845.1004304 --> 00:41:42,544.5458855
Alain Charnier was never found, but he was believed to have returned to France.

471
00:41:42,544.5458855 --> 00:41:48,248.4345603
Interesting, the actor, Henri Deveraux, was sentenced to four years in federal prison for conspiracy.

472
00:41:48,498.4345603 --> 00:41:50,138.4345603
Guy that goes to jail is the actor.

473
00:41:50,243.4345603 --> 00:41:51,923.4345603
The actor is the only guy who goes to jail.

474
00:41:51,933.4345603 --> 00:41:54,779.0810977
I don't know if freaking was trying to make a statement there.

475
00:41:54,779.5454002 --> 00:41:55,415.5255964
think he was.

476
00:41:55,415.5255964 --> 00:41:59,805.0811333
And unfortunately for Jimmy and buddy, they are reassigned outside of narcotics.

477
00:41:59,830.1650085 --> 00:42:00,137.1922377
Yeah.

478
00:42:00,187.1922377 --> 00:42:03,665.525071
that was a big, that was probably a huge demotion for Yeah.

479
00:42:03,760.526071 --> 00:42:07,875.525071
and probably result of the fact that the guy got shot Right.

480
00:42:07,890.525071 --> 00:42:19,220.8575091
we didn't get the main guy, but it's, I have to say, it's one of those ones where you're like the end of that movie, you're like, You're going to end it like Oh, the first time I watched it, I was a little bit angry about it.

481
00:42:19,380.8575091 --> 00:42:19,820.8575091
Yeah.

482
00:42:19,850.8575091 --> 00:42:22,590.8575091
that it just, it suddenly stopped, with that.

483
00:42:23,0.8575091 --> 00:42:24,580.8575091
I guess there's, I guess there's a sequel.

484
00:42:24,850.8575091 --> 00:42:35,698.4223538
it was certainly, it certainly again, one of those things that were different in this movie that sort of unlike a lot of other movies, there usually wasn't, there was sometimes an epilogue, but it was usually acted out.

485
00:42:35,706.632205 --> 00:42:37,176.4223335
It wasn't just usually text.

486
00:42:37,176.4223335 --> 00:42:44,501.644298
So If you were to remake this movie today, what would you keep the same and what would you change? there were a lot of following.

487
00:42:44,871.644298 --> 00:42:46,101.644298
Doing a lot of following.

488
00:42:46,122.9773058 --> 00:42:48,672.9773058
And I thought after a while, you're like, I get it.

489
00:42:48,912.9773058 --> 00:42:49,402.9773058
Okay.

490
00:42:49,427.9773058 --> 00:42:49,767.9773058
Yeah.

491
00:42:49,962.9773058 --> 00:42:50,590.907568
You're following him.

492
00:42:50,590.907568 --> 00:42:54,421.8661608
We know it's hard after the first couple of times you realize how hard it is.

493
00:42:55,71.8661608 --> 00:42:55,991.8661608
And was interesting.

494
00:42:55,991.8661608 --> 00:43:00,841.8661608
And the car scene, I don't think you could have done anything better.

495
00:43:01,191.8661608 --> 00:43:12,538.7473842
Than that and it worked out really well with the sole exception of the following that guy got on the train, I failed to see how he knew Popeye was following him Mm.

496
00:43:12,583.7463842 --> 00:43:12,913.7473842
A train.

497
00:43:12,913.7473842 --> 00:43:18,61.8571426
You cannot see underneath that train, right? Oh, yeah, during the car chase sequence.

498
00:43:18,236.8571426 --> 00:43:24,537.6553059
Yeah, I mean maybe you'd hear it a little bit, but those trains are really loud.

499
00:43:24,537.6553059 --> 00:43:33,530.9876392
So I have a hard time saying, why wasn't that guy just sitting there Right, Train to come and getting off at a station and he made, made him stop, not stop at a station.

500
00:43:33,540.9876392 --> 00:43:36,436.9882089
Now I know he didn't get on.

501
00:43:36,646.9892089 --> 00:43:42,656.9882088
But the idea that he would take a car and be able to get to that station before he could get off the train right.

502
00:43:42,776.9892089 --> 00:43:46,21.4324838
I think they should have somehow shown him the car.

503
00:43:46,21.4324838 --> 00:43:53,771.4324838
And I, the way I would have done it was I would have had the guy look out the train and look at some windows of a building and see the car.

504
00:43:53,891.4324837 --> 00:43:55,581.4324837
there's a car that he's being chased.

505
00:43:55,701.4324837 --> 00:44:02,331.4324837
Yeah, without that, I'm like, why is he so like crazy about getting off? Why is he going to shoot somebody? right.

506
00:44:02,461.4324838 --> 00:44:06,291.6544483
Yeah, he, he waved at the policeman, right? And the policeman came up to him.

507
00:44:06,303.7873997 --> 00:44:07,480.0978656
But to be honest with you.

508
00:44:07,520.0978656 --> 00:44:11,390.0978656
Even shooting the policeman seemed silly because he'd pull out of the station.

509
00:44:11,390.0978656 --> 00:44:13,710.0978656
It's like you say, the policeman, I don't know who that guy was.

510
00:44:13,710.0978656 --> 00:44:14,520.0978656
He's crazy.

511
00:44:15,350.0978656 --> 00:44:16,370.0978656
He ran into me or something.

512
00:44:16,380.0978656 --> 00:44:16,780.0978656
I don't know.

513
00:44:16,840.0978656 --> 00:44:17,270.0978656
Maybe.

514
00:44:17,710.0978656 --> 00:44:23,322.3218759
I just thought that was a little bit of a stretch that he would know that it was being followed, so let me ask you this.

515
00:44:23,422.3218759 --> 00:44:27,797.4655516
Did it GROOVE through the decades or has it lost its beat? I think definitely.

516
00:44:27,797.4655516 --> 00:44:34,265.2082018
I think a couple of things, like most things that when you watch that were made in decades before.

517
00:44:34,709.6864347 --> 00:44:48,909.2527759
maybe for a lot of people that are listening alive, but some of us who are older realize is that you really have to put yourself a little bit in that timeframe and realize what's going on and not, and also realize it was the first of these.

518
00:44:49,109.3527759 --> 00:44:58,459.3537759
Coming not it was not like, I think I made mentioned before that so if you see the, if you watch the wire Is really a Great show.

519
00:44:58,869.3537759 --> 00:45:07,649.3537759
amazing show that really delves into how police work had to be done in the electronic age with burner phones and with Tapping.

520
00:45:07,729.4537759 --> 00:45:08,224.4137759
Yeah.

521
00:45:08,239.5137759 --> 00:45:18,939.5137759
analog for the car following in this movie is the phone tapping trying to trace those phones in the wire, it really showed you how real police work.

522
00:45:18,979.5137759 --> 00:45:19,979.5132759
And we just take it for granted.

523
00:45:19,979.5132759 --> 00:45:22,509.5137759
And I was like, Oh yeah, they can show us really how they do these things.

524
00:45:23,459.5137759 --> 00:45:24,669.5137759
This was the first of those.

525
00:45:24,699.5137759 --> 00:45:29,419.5122759
And not the very first, but definitely the not.

526
00:45:29,769.5122759 --> 00:45:37,919.5122759
dressed up Peter Marlowe, Tracy type of policeman detective thing going on.

527
00:45:38,274.5122759 --> 00:45:40,294.5122759
I 100 percent agree with you.

528
00:45:40,294.5122759 --> 00:45:42,734.5122759
I know you, you were talking about the wire.

529
00:45:43,84.5122759 --> 00:45:53,894.5122759
The show that it reminded me that I thought of a lot was there was a show in the camera and feels like it was in the late nineties called NYPD blue with Dennis Franz.

530
00:45:53,944.5122759 --> 00:46:00,354.5122758
Yeah, Reminded me of that where, these cops were operating a lot on the edge of things.

531
00:46:00,354.5122758 --> 00:46:22,84.5122758
And they were very driven and sometimes, they flirted with going up to the line and sometimes stepping over the line, but, and I think we've seen other characters, who are like, Popeye, who are driven, to, to a, to just being almost singularly focused on, their task, that's at hand.

532
00:46:22,554.5122758 --> 00:46:23,449.5112759
So sure.

533
00:46:23,521.1789425 --> 00:46:23,761.1789425
Yeah.

534
00:46:23,801.1779425 --> 00:46:24,281.1779425
That's great.

535
00:46:24,351.1789425 --> 00:46:25,51.1789425
A great movie.

536
00:46:25,81.1789425 --> 00:46:26,574.9561118
I think it was really well done shock.

537
00:46:26,574.9561118 --> 00:46:33,910.6227088
takeaway is and what people would probably notice the most is how little Dialogue there is that there's.

538
00:46:34,460.6227088 --> 00:46:34,970.6227088
Yes.

539
00:46:35,210.6227088 --> 00:46:44,849.954798
that much dialogue And so you have to listen to what they're saying because they don't say a lot Do we have anything else we can close it out? I do not have anything else.

540
00:46:44,849.954798 --> 00:47:00,909.953798
I think we probably provide you with far more information than we need So I matt, I just wanted to thank you so much for your time, your perspective, and helping to set the context of the 1970s at that time, based on your experience and what you lived through.

541
00:47:01,299.952798 --> 00:47:05,839.953798
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545
00:47:27,482.605798 --> 00:47:28,862.605798
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546
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As we take the Wayback Machines to the 70s to explore another film from that decade.